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From @lex-luthor.ai.mit.edu:jcma@REAGAN.AI.MIT.EDU Tue Apr 27 16:45:32 1993
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1993 13:28-0400
From: The White House <75300.3115@compuserve.com>
Subject: AM Press Briefing by Dee Dee Myers 4.27.93
To: Clinton-News-Distribution@campaign92.org
THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
_____________________________________________________________________
For Immediate Release April 27, 1993
PRESS BRIEFING
BY DEE DEE MYERS
The Briefing Room
9:44 A.M. EDT
MS. MYERS: Let's talk about the schedule.
Q No. (Laughter.)
MS. MYERS: Two things. The President's meeting right
now with Senator Mitchell and Congressman Foley and Congressman
Gephardt. They will talk about a number of issues.
The President will leave here at 11:15 a.m. for his
11:30 a.m. speech before the National Realtors Association. He'll be
back here at 12:30 p.m.
George is scheduled to brief at 1:00 p.m. And then at
4:30 p.m., the President will have a photo op with the national
champion University of North Carolina Men's Basketball Team and Texas
Tech Women's Basketball Team.
At 6:30 p.m. he will drop by a salute to Joe Moakley
reception, and then to the National Endowment for Democracy reception
at the Capital Hilton.
Q How come this wasn't on the schedule?
MS. MYERS: This meeting? I mentioned it yesterday.
But it wasn't on -- it's not on the public schedule.
Q And will they be coming out?
MS. MYERS: Yes, I'm sure they will. The meeting is
scheduled to last about an hour. They're in there now.
Q What time do you think they'll be out?
MS. MYERS: Ten thirty a.m., 10:45 a.m.
Q Subject?
MS. MYERS: I think it's a variety of things, including
jobs package, health care.
Q Does he believe the advice that he's getting -- is
he getting the advice from Panetta that Panetta mentioned yesterday
in terms of how difficult it's going to be to get particularly the
funding out of Congress?
MS. MYERS: I think he certainly takes Director
Panetta's comments seriously. Nobody believed that this would be
easy. The reconciliation package will be tough, getting the whole
budget through Congress will be tough. But we knew it wouldn't be
easy when we started this process. The President's budget is
basically a reorienting of funding priorities in this country. But
we did get the resolution passed through Congress in record time, and
we're going to fight like crazy to get the other elements of the
President's package passed.
Q Had he heard in private those same sentiments from
Panetta before the Director made them public?
MS. MYERS: Panetta gives his advice to the President
regularly. They meet and talk regularly. And I can't discuss --
Q The President wasn't surprised by -- his comment
this morning was --
MS. MYERS: I think Mr. Panetta has a well-deserved
reputation for candor, and he always speaks his mind.
Q Is the President considering holding back on his
health care package, delaying the health care package, as Panetta and
Foley both recommend?
MS. MYERS: At this point, everything is moving forward
on schedule. We're still making good progress on the development of
the health care plan. Obviously, we'll work with Congress on the
specific legislative strategy, but the President is committed to
getting a health care plan through Congress this year.
Q Is he going to go ahead with his plans to unveil it
in May?
MS. MYERS: We're still moving forward on the same time
line.
Q Does the President agree with Panetta that NAFTA is
dead?
MS. MYERS: No, and I'm not sure that's what Panetta
said. I think he said if it went up to the Hill now it would be
dead. But the President wouldn't send it up to the Hill now. He has
said repeatedly that he wouldn't send it up unless we had the
supplemental agreements to protect labor standards and the
environment.
Q Would you say NAFTA is alive and well?
MS. MYERS: I think NAFTA is alive and well. I think
that there's a lot of work that needs to be done on it, and I think
Ambassador Kantor is working hard to negotiate those supplemental
agreements. The President believes if we get good supplemental
agreements and good implementing legislation, that NAFTA will be
good, it will create a lot of jobs on both sides of both borders.
And he's going to push very hard to see it passed. He'd like to see
it passed this year. But again, not without the supplemental
agreements and the implementing legislation.
Q Did the President talk to Panetta today? His whole
interview was a real downer in terms of practically everything going
down the drain. Is that the attitude -- are you guys being spooked
by the Republicans?
MS. MYERS: No, I don't think that's it at all.
Q The President is not unhappy with his public
remarks?
MS. MYERS: No, he's really -- I mean, he hasn't spoken
to Panetta this morning -- I don't believe he has. And Panetta was
at the morning meeting this morning, as he always is.
Q Panetta was at the meeting with McLarty?
MS. MYERS: Yes.
Q But the President doesn't participate in it?
MS. MYERS: No. But as I said, I don't believe that the
President has spoken to him.
Q Did Panetta explained his --
MS. MYERS: His opinions are his opinions. I think that
he believes that the President can get his budget package through
Congress, believes that we can pass meaningful health care reform,
believes that we can pass Russian aid. I think he believes that
these are difficult, complicated issues. But I think that he's ready
for the fight.
Q Was he apologetic today, or was he astounded of the
way it came out?
MS. MYERS: I think he was a little surprised by the
placement in some of the papers.
Q You mean front page?
MS. MYERS: Front page, lead story in certain papers.
You know it was played in different places in different papers. I
don't know what he expected.
Q What do you expect?
MS. MYERS: I didn't ask what he expected.
Q There was never any question that he was speaking
on the record. I mean, he didn't say that he --
MS. MYERS: No, he's not denied anything that's in the
article. I think the characterizations are those of the various
reporters. But, basically, again, you all know Leon -- he's a very
straight forward guy and he speaks his mind. But I also want to
point out that he's working very hard -- there's a bug on the podium
-- he's working very hard --
Q It's the CIA. (Laughter.)
Q What kind of bug?
MS. MYERS: It's a -- I don't know -- it's like a little
flake fly. He's working hard to pass this package. He believes that
we can make good progress on all these issues this year and he's in
there fighting just as hard as everybody else. And I don't think
he's -- I don't think that he's downbeat. I think that it's hard,
but I think everybody's ready for the fight.
Q People typically make these comments to newspapers
when their voice haven't been listened to in the administration, and
when they feel frustrated this is often what happens. Did he have
anything to say along those lines this morning?
MS. MYERS: No. Again, I think that he's a very direct
-- in fact, I think maybe --
Q He's also usually a team player who wouldn't go out
and say these kind of things unless there was something else --
MS. MYERS: He's absolutely a team player -- no, I think
exactly the opposite. I mean, he is a team player. He's somebody
who is greatly respected within the administration, somebody whose
opinions --
Q Has he been taken to the woodshed?
MS. MYERS: No. He is somebody whose opinions and
advice are listened to and taken very seriously by everybody in the
administration.
Q If he's that much of a team player, are you hinting
then that other members of the team feel the same way?
MS. MYERS: About?
Q They would concur with his assessment of the
President's legislative prospects.
MS. MYERS: I don't know, other than -- I mean, they'll
speak for themselves.
Q What's the President's reaction? We've been
talking about the Budget Director; is the President also surprised at
the placement of the article?
MS. MYERS: I don't know.
Q Is the President also --
MS. MYERS: He didn't have a lot to say about it.
Q I'm still not sure whether I understand whether
these sentiments come as a surprise to the White House, or whether
Mr. Panetta has been voicing these same concerns in the regular
meetings you've been having.
MS. MYERS: I think that, again, Leon Panetta is
somebody who is a key player on this team whose opinions are well-
known. But I also think -- that's why I'm saying that I think that
he believes, as a number of people do, that this will not be easy,
but he believes that it's possible and will continue to fight for it.
Q He didn't sound like that. He sounded like
everything has gone down the drain.
Q The word dead usually connotes --
MS. MYERS: But put it in context. If it went up to the
Hill this week -- I agree with him -- if it went up to the Hill this
week, it would be dead. We're not going to send it up to the Hill
right now. We're not going to send it up to the Hill until there is
the supplemental --
Q What are you talking about?
MS. MYERS: This is NAFTA -- until there are
supplemental agreements that the President talked about to protect
labor standards, to protect the environment. And then there has to
be the five points in the implementing legislation that the
President's talked about. In its current form, I don't think there's
any question that without those supplemental agreements, NAFTA would
never pass. And the President doesn't want it without the
supplemental agreements.
Q What is the President's strategy for overcoming
this roadblock that he now perceives on the Hill? There's no
question they're feeling their strength, and the President looks
weak.
MS. MYERS: I think that the President has already
achieved a great legislative success on the Hill with the passage of
the budget resolution. We're going to continue to work with Congress
on both sides of the aisle to get the other elements of his
legislative agenda passed. I don't think the Republicans want to be
responsible for holding up every element of the President's package.
I don't think that they want to be perceived as the guardians of
gridlock, to use a phrase.
Q Panetta, if I understand, he was not just talking
about Republicans, he's talking about Democrats as well.
MS. MYERS: And as I said, we will continue to work with
members on both sides of the aisle. We believe that we can get the
reconciliation package through. The President's committed to getting
health care reform this year, we're going to continue to fight. I
think the American people are on the President's side on this. They
want new spending priorities, they continue to support the
President's economic plan. They're certainly for health care reform.
They want change. They voted overwhelmingly for change in November,
and they continue to support it. And I think that that's -- you
can't underestimate the importance of that. I mean, there are a
number of members of Congress, both in the Senate and the House, who
are sensitive to the urgency that people want change.
Q Dee Dee, is there any concern that this kind of
public candor by a high administration official, though, is
counterproductive?
MS. MYERS: I don't want to comment much more than what
I've already said. Again, I think Leon Panetta is a well-respected
person, both inside and outside this administration.
Q He's not speaking for the administration but for
himself?
MS. MYERS: I think he was making his opinions clear,
but again, I also think that he is going to continue to fight and
believes that we can make good progress this year.
Q Is it a deliberate strategy to lower expectations?
MS. MYERS: No, no.
Q Is it possible to get Mr. Panetta to come down and
talk to us and tell us exactly --
Q In your dreams. (Laughter.)
MS. MYERS: No, I'm not suggesting -- with the exception
of the NAFTA quote, that it was necessarily taken out of context.
All I'm saying is that Panetta, in spite of him recognizing this is a
tough fight, is going to continue to work with us to get this package
passed.
Q Given the fact, though, that this is the week where
the 100-day marker falls, don't you think it's kind of bad timing
that he would just grant this kind of high-profile interview in the
first place?
MS. MYERS: Well, it wasn't an interview, it was a
lunch.
Q Lunch, interview.
MS. MYERS: Well, I mean --
Q I think it's bad timing he had lunch. (Laughter.)
MS. MYERS: Right.
Q Did he pay for his own lunch or was he allowed to
accept -- (laughter.)
MS. MYERS: Boy, I'll get right back to you on that.
(Laughter.)
Q Did the President have that specific --
MS. MYERS: I mean, you can't control the timing of
everything that happens. I think there are a number of things about
which we would have changed the timing in the last couple of weeks if
we had our druthers.
Q We're trying to find out if this is the attitude in
the White House, that there is the gloom and doom.
MS. MYERS: No, absolutely not. I think the attitude in
the White House has been -- it is that this has been a very
productive 100 days. Not everything has gone exactly according to
script, but overall we've made good progress on the President's
priorities, which are the economy, health care, campaign finance
reform, and national service. We'll continue to fight to get those
-- his priorities passed through Congress. We'll continue to work
with Congress to get it done. I think that the attitude in the White
House right now is pretty upbeat. I think people feel like we've had
our good days and our bad days, but overall we've made good progress.
Q Dee Dee, if the attitude in the White House is
pretty upbeat, aren't you and the President distressed that a leading
official would give such a downbeat interview? And if not, what's
going on here?
MS. MYERS: Well, I mean, I think that there is room for
people to speak their minds. I think the Budget Director is a very
forthright guy, and someone who is respected both, again, inside and
outside the administration.
Q But, Dee Dee, if the White House feels things are
going pretty well, is the White House not distressed that such a
senior official would give an interview suggesting that things are on
a down-down spiral?
MS. MYERS: That's just not our opinion, no.
Q So in other words he's -- what he said differs from
what the rest of the White House thinks?
MS. MYERS: I think that what he said is that it's not
going to be easy. I think that that is clearly true, but we expect
to keep fighting.
Q Do the President's senior advisors disagree with
Panetta's assertion that the President should have a more clearly
defined message and that he should take his message to the public?
MS. MYERS: I think that that is something that we
always try to do. We always try to have a clear message and we --
Q No, no, the question is are there advisors that
disagree with that?
MS. MYERS: That we ought to have a clear message? I
don't think so. I think that's one of the things that we've done
throughout the campaign and in the beginning of the administration
pretty well -- we can always do better. We can always have a more
clearly defined message. And I think it's very important that we
continue to take that message to the American people. And I think
that's something that we'll continue to do.
Q What's going to be his message to the realtors
today? On the economy?
MS. MYERS: Yes, he'll talk about the economy,
primarily; a little bit, again, reflecting -- continuing to
reflect on the first 100 days.
Q Given what you acknowledge as the difficulty of
doing the things that are on the Hill already, what is the thinking
in the next week introducing legislation on campaign finance reform
and national service? I realize these are priorities, but one
observation has been that this is sort of on overload already. Why
would you pursue this now, along with all this other stuff that's so
hard?
MS. MYERS: Again, the President did outline priorities.
Campaign finance reform and national service were among those. I
think he can do more than one thing at a time and I think that
campaign finance reform and national service reenforce the message,
and I think in many ways help move things along. The President said
that part of it in the sort of overall message of change was that
every American ought to have a chance to go to college. That is
widely supported, something the President believes deeply in,
something we're going to move forward with.
Campaign finance reform I think underscores his
commitment to change the way we do business in this country, the way
we do politics. And he believes that is something that is supported
by the people and the people need to know that we're committed to
change, and this will help, I think, on a number of fronts. It won't
be easy, but --
Q Is that tomorrow?
MS. MYERS: It may come out sometime this week. We're
still working on the final details.
Q On the campaign finance reform?
MS. MYERS: Campaign finance reform. National service
will definitely happen on Friday.
Q But he's also going to be introducing legislation
presumably recommending legislation eventually on health care reform
and on welfare reform and on taxes, all this other stuff that's going
to --
MS. MYERS: Well, the tax is part of the reconciliation
package.
Q But all this are his priorities. It seems that
there are so many major priorities right now that this focusing in
like a laser beam is looking a little more scattered.
MS. MYERS: No, I think that the priorities that he
outlined at the beginning of his term are still his priorities.
Welfare reform is something that he's worked on, as you know,
throughout his career in public service. We're working on that. We
don't have a specific time line on it. It's something that I think
we'll get to, something that's high up on the priority list. But I
think we're focused on those top four priorities now. He said he'd
--
Q Is welfare reform a priority for this year?
MS. MYERS: I think it's something we'll definitely get
to this year.
Q Where is he going Friday?
MS. MYERS: We're still working on it. Somewhere
probably again in the Eastern time zone. It will definitely be a day
trip. We'll probably leave the first thing in the morning and come
back in the late afternoon.
Q What area code? (Laughter.)
Q Bosnia status.
MS. MYERS: Bosnia status. The President is still
considering his options, still consulting with the allies, and we
hope to have more to say about that soon.
Q Has he talked with anyone?
Q Is Warren Christopher going to shop something
around Europe?
MS. MYERS: No, there's no plans right now for
Christopher to travel to Europe.
Q Did he ever get through to President Mitterrand
yesterday?
MS. MYERS: I don't believe so. I think he's going to
try him again today.
Q What about Major?
Q The President said the next several days. Is that
--
Q Is Mitterrand avoiding him?
MS. MYERS: I just don't have a specific time line. We
don't have a particular date. I think he's working on it. He's
obviously going to continue to consult with Congress a little bit,
but we don't have a hard and fast day.
Q Did he say yesterday the next few days, though?
MS. MYERS: It could be -- yes, the next several days.
It's sort of an elastic term. But I think soon being the favorite --
Q That's stretching it. (Laughter.)
Q Will you let us know when you have something to
announce?
MS. MYERS: Yes. (Laughter.) You can count on us.
Q Milan Panic said last night said that he wants to
meet with the President -- the former prime minister of the former
Yugoslavia.
MS. MYERS: Californian.
Q Yes. Is the President planning a meeting with Mr.
Panic?
MS. MYERS: I don't believe we've received a request,
but --
Q Would the President be interested in a meeting?
MS. MYERS: I don't know. I'll have to get back to you
on that.
Q This health care review panel -- do you know yet
when they are going to meet to review the task force program or has
that started?
MS. MYERS: Bob --
MR. BOORSTIN: They've already started to meet. They'll
continue to meet.
Q When did they have their first meeting?
MR. BOORSTIN: Oh, God, about a month ago. They met for
the first time for an orientation session.
Q But have they started actually reviewing the
proposals?
MR. BOORSTIN: Yes, they've reviewed several pieces of
the plan.
Q Okay. And when did that start?
MR. BOORSTIN: That really was intensive over the last
few days.
Q And you're still shooting for mid-May?
MS. MYERS: We're still on track.
MR. BOORSTIN: Stick with what Dee Dee says. She's my
boss.
Q What is the theory behind -- what is the reason for
that timetable, since there are reasons -- obvious reasons to not do
it at that time?
MS. MYERS: On health care? Well, as you know, we
originally intended to get it done within the first 100 days and for
-- due to unforeseen circumstances, we pushed it back some. The
reason is because the President believes it's critically important;
it's something that he talked about a lot during the campaign and
because he believed so strongly that unless you can control health
care costs, you can't reduce the deficit, plus the human concerns.
Q This was a campaign promise-driven timetable as
opposed to a legislative strategy thing?
MS. MYERS: Well, no, it's both, though. It's a
campaign promise-driven timetable. It's important to do it soon
because it's important to get it done. He believes that you need to
get it done. And it's something he's willing to take on early in his
administration, to use his capital to get it passed. And he's very
committed to it. He doesn't want to wait. He believes that it's
important both to the long-term fiscal health of the country as well
as to the health and well-being of the American people.
Q Have you done any estimates on the effect on his
economic program if it does not pass this year?
MS. MYERS: If health care -- well, if you look at the
different graphs and charts and budget estimates, the deficit goes
down through 1997 as a result of health care without reform, because
we didn't factor in any cost savings for health care into the budget
plan. It goes right back up.
Q There are some holes in the budget that are
supposedly going to be filled in by health care. How much does that
change your forecast in terms of --
MS. MYERS: There are no cost savings from health care
factored into the budget.
Q Not necessarily cost savings, but outlays in terms
of Medicare, Medicaid, things that were left out of -- there were no
reforms done or changes made because that was going to be part of the
health care.
MS. MYERS: I don't whether the specific calculations
have done based on if health care passed in 1994 as opposed to 1993.
I don't know. I can check.
MS. MYERS: Thank you.
THE PRESS: Thank you.
END10:04 A.M. EDT